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		<title>By: SharePoint Farm configuring and deployment Part 6 – Post Deployment &#124; SharePoint Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>SharePoint Farm configuring and deployment Part 6 – Post Deployment &#124; SharePoint Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 05:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Part 2 &#8211; Installation [...]</description>
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		<title>By: data recovery</title>
		<link>http://sharepointmagazine.net/articles/sharepoint-farm-configuring-and-deployment-part-2-installation-configuration#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>data recovery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 13:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does it work on windows 7?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does it work on windows 7?</p>
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		<title>By: laflour</title>
		<link>http://sharepointmagazine.net/articles/sharepoint-farm-configuring-and-deployment-part-2-installation-configuration#comment-997</link>
		<dc:creator>laflour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to explain in details what exactly happened.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are 6 articles I started to write in the end of 2008 and they were queued in March 2009 for publishing. After that articles were reviewed by several guys, changed and published in June 2009. Unfortunately, the “part 2” was not updated since December 2008, and that very early draft version was published accidently :( That version was a bit messy – a lot of copy-pasting issues with the wrong section titles, wrong references, and some stuff were not elaborated properly.  And it’s when discussion started :) Let’s say people where really surprised to read that bullshit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unfortunately, I had limited internet access at those days and everything I saw were comments that I got by email. I was a bit confused by people reaction, because I had no idea that wrong articles had been published. &lt;br&gt;In a couple of days that “draft-version” mistake was noted and fixed by uploading the right version of article.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please ignore all comments, because they doesn&#039;t relate to this updated article and are about draft version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d like to explain in details what exactly happened.</p>
<p>There are 6 articles I started to write in the end of 2008 and they were queued in March 2009 for publishing. After that articles were reviewed by several guys, changed and published in June 2009. Unfortunately, the “part 2” was not updated since December 2008, and that very early draft version was published accidently <img src='http://sharepointmagazine.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  That version was a bit messy – a lot of copy-pasting issues with the wrong section titles, wrong references, and some stuff were not elaborated properly.  And it’s when discussion started <img src='http://sharepointmagazine.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Let’s say people where really surprised to read that bullshit.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I had limited internet access at those days and everything I saw were comments that I got by email. I was a bit confused by people reaction, because I had no idea that wrong articles had been published. <br />In a couple of days that “draft-version” mistake was noted and fixed by uploading the right version of article.</p>
<p>Please ignore all comments, because they doesn&#39;t relate to this updated article and are about draft version.</p>
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		<title>By: djenkinsenergy</title>
		<link>http://sharepointmagazine.net/articles/sharepoint-farm-configuring-and-deployment-part-2-installation-configuration#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>djenkinsenergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on the need for more information about Service Accounts. Cut Michael some slack. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on the need for more information about Service Accounts. Cut Michael some slack. <img src='http://sharepointmagazine.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Arno Nel (SharePoint Magazine)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arno Nel (SharePoint Magazine)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: laflour</title>
		<link>http://sharepointmagazine.net/articles/sharepoint-farm-configuring-and-deployment-part-2-installation-configuration#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>laflour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys, I realized that this published Part 2 article is the earlier draft, that contain several significant mistypings. The final version doesn&#039;t include all that errors you highlighted. But for some reasons it was not submitted :(&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will be updated soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys, I realized that this published Part 2 article is the earlier draft, that contain several significant mistypings. The final version doesn&#39;t include all that errors you highlighted. But for some reasons it was not submitted <img src='http://sharepointmagazine.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It will be updated soon.</p>
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		<title>By: laflour</title>
		<link>http://sharepointmagazine.net/articles/sharepoint-farm-configuring-and-deployment-part-2-installation-configuration#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>laflour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Agree with WID. Should be more specific between WSS and MOSS.&lt;br&gt;WSS: &lt;br&gt;Windows Internal Database is used for Basic installation of WSS 3.0. WID doen&#039;t have size limitation&lt;br&gt;MOSS:&lt;br&gt;Basic installation: SQL Express 2005 with 4Gb limit&lt;br&gt;Using SQL 2008 for WSS and MOSS (advanced install) is preferable due to additional feautures of SQL 2008.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) Office on MOSS Application server is &quot;good-to-have&quot;. (see my previous reply, even not all agree with my points) I don&#039;t see real disadvantages of having Office on Application Server, that stop you install it there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) Re-installation of SharePoint is not supported automatically. It&#039;s well-known issue, because SharePoint doesn&#039;t remove some corpses and doesn&#039;t clean database.  You need to complete several manual operation, to remove it completely, otherwise it can&#039;t be installed correctly in some cases.&lt;br&gt;There are some descriptions&lt;br&gt;-  &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.technet.com/victorbutuza/archive/2009/04/14/manual-sharepoint-uninstall-procedure.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.technet.com/victorbutuza/archive/2...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sharepointblogs.com/spfromscratch/archive/2009/03/24/wss-and-server-2008.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sharepointblogs.com/spfromscratch/ar...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4) Thanks for this note, I actually meant &quot;Central Administration&quot; service. Mistyped. Will fix this in article&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for you comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Agree with WID. Should be more specific between WSS and MOSS.<br />WSS: <br />Windows Internal Database is used for Basic installation of WSS 3.0. WID doen&#39;t have size limitation<br />MOSS:<br />Basic installation: SQL Express 2005 with 4Gb limit<br />Using SQL 2008 for WSS and MOSS (advanced install) is preferable due to additional feautures of SQL 2008.</p>
<p>2) Office on MOSS Application server is &#8220;good-to-have&#8221;. (see my previous reply, even not all agree with my points) I don&#39;t see real disadvantages of having Office on Application Server, that stop you install it there.</p>
<p>3) Re-installation of SharePoint is not supported automatically. It&#39;s well-known issue, because SharePoint doesn&#39;t remove some corpses and doesn&#39;t clean database.  You need to complete several manual operation, to remove it completely, otherwise it can&#39;t be installed correctly in some cases.<br />There are some descriptions<br />-  <a href="http://blogs.technet.com/victorbutuza/archive/2009/04/14/manual-sharepoint-uninstall-procedure.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.technet.com/victorbutuza/archive/2&#8230;</a><br />- <a href="http://www.sharepointblogs.com/spfromscratch/archive/2009/03/24/wss-and-server-2008.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.sharepointblogs.com/spfromscratch/ar&#8230;</a></p>
<p>4) Thanks for this note, I actually meant &#8220;Central Administration&#8221; service. Mistyped. Will fix this in article</p>
<p>Thanks for you comments</p>
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		<title>By: ssgill</title>
		<link>http://sharepointmagazine.net/articles/sharepoint-farm-configuring-and-deployment-part-2-installation-configuration#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>ssgill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your respond. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Installing office apps on the sharepoint server is not a best practise scenario. Okay are you talking about best practise for development, POC or production.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You do know when you install office app on sharepoint servers, you also bring with it all issues and fixes for office. imagine you have to apply a hotfix for word 2007 and you are doing it on a server. what if the hotfix breaks you sharepoint server? do you think microsoft tests their hotfixes on server installation or clients installation? even worse imagining opening a virus infected file on the server. with the office application on the server, you will be inclined to carry out client-side/user-side activities on the server. That in it self is not a best practise. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;just imagine, you are sitting at domain controllers getting some back up done. you are waiting and to kill time you open the browser on the DC to check your gmail? make sense? certainly not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;at the end of the day, are you writing about common installation scenarios or best practises. maybe the blog should be re-titled. also would be good if you can make the readers aware of the issues with installing office app on server and also it is not required.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank You&lt;br&gt;Sarbjit &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i hope you see my point?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i think the best way is have a dedicated machine for CA on a sharepoint server. put the office there. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as for autodesk, yes it is on the clients, where the CAD/CAM folks are doing their work. i don&#039;t need to put autodesk on the sharepoint server just in case i need to make some changes to the autodesk documents. autodesk client is meant for the client.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it is not even good to have office application on servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your respond. </p>
<p>Installing office apps on the sharepoint server is not a best practise scenario. Okay are you talking about best practise for development, POC or production.</p>
<p>You do know when you install office app on sharepoint servers, you also bring with it all issues and fixes for office. imagine you have to apply a hotfix for word 2007 and you are doing it on a server. what if the hotfix breaks you sharepoint server? do you think microsoft tests their hotfixes on server installation or clients installation? even worse imagining opening a virus infected file on the server. with the office application on the server, you will be inclined to carry out client-side/user-side activities on the server. That in it self is not a best practise. </p>
<p>just imagine, you are sitting at domain controllers getting some back up done. you are waiting and to kill time you open the browser on the DC to check your gmail? make sense? certainly not.</p>
<p>at the end of the day, are you writing about common installation scenarios or best practises. maybe the blog should be re-titled. also would be good if you can make the readers aware of the issues with installing office app on server and also it is not required.</p>
<p>Thank You<br />Sarbjit </p>
<p>i hope you see my point?</p>
<p>i think the best way is have a dedicated machine for CA on a sharepoint server. put the office there. </p>
<p>as for autodesk, yes it is on the clients, where the CAD/CAM folks are doing their work. i don&#39;t need to put autodesk on the sharepoint server just in case i need to make some changes to the autodesk documents. autodesk client is meant for the client.</p>
<p>it is not even good to have office application on servers.</p>
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		<title>By: laflour</title>
		<link>http://sharepointmagazine.net/articles/sharepoint-farm-configuring-and-deployment-part-2-installation-configuration#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>laflour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, you really don&#039;t need to install Office application on Application Server in SharePoint in most cases. But this series of articles are about &quot;Best Practices&quot;, which try to cover most common scenarios. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are several cases when you don&#039;t have the right office version on the client and need to make some changes to you farm as admin. Having offices installed on app server provide you all required features, when you logon on you server&#039;s remotely.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another thing I kept in mind when wrote about installing Office on application server (not 100% sure, but it helped me last time) is rendering office documents in browser, what requires some additional files from office installation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, in most cases it&#039;s &quot;good&quot; to have Office installed on Application Server, but it&#039;s not obliged in most cases.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding AutoDesk: if you want to expose you autodesk functionality to the client via browsers then I believe yes, you need to install in on SharePoint server to have a tight integration (or you suggest to install autodesk on each client app?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, you really don&#39;t need to install Office application on Application Server in SharePoint in most cases. But this series of articles are about &#8220;Best Practices&#8221;, which try to cover most common scenarios. </p>
<p>There are several cases when you don&#39;t have the right office version on the client and need to make some changes to you farm as admin. Having offices installed on app server provide you all required features, when you logon on you server&#39;s remotely.</p>
<p>Another thing I kept in mind when wrote about installing Office on application server (not 100% sure, but it helped me last time) is rendering office documents in browser, what requires some additional files from office installation. </p>
<p>So, in most cases it&#39;s &#8220;good&#8221; to have Office installed on Application Server, but it&#39;s not obliged in most cases.</p>
<p>Regarding AutoDesk: if you want to expose you autodesk functionality to the client via browsers then I believe yes, you need to install in on SharePoint server to have a tight integration (or you suggest to install autodesk on each client app?)</p>
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		<title>By: ssgill</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssgill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is ridiculous. You don&#039;t need to install applications on SharePoint 2007 servers. So if i was implementing SharePoint 2007 in an environment where they were doing stuff with AutoDesk, so are you saying i have install this on the SharePoint 2007 app server as well. The licensing is USD20,000 per installation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i think there are a lot of new folks to SharePoint which are going to get the wrong information because of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is ridiculous. You don&#39;t need to install applications on SharePoint 2007 servers. So if i was implementing SharePoint 2007 in an environment where they were doing stuff with AutoDesk, so are you saying i have install this on the SharePoint 2007 app server as well. The licensing is USD20,000 per installation. </p>
<p>i think there are a lot of new folks to SharePoint which are going to get the wrong information because of this.</p>
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